We’re launching MailChimp v5.1 tonight. [Update: It's live now.] The upgrade should not cause any downtime, or affect subscriptions, tracking, etc.
This release is not going to be a huge one, but the changes we’ve made are going to be very visible to all users, so we just want to give you a heads-up so you’re prepared. Here’s what’s changing…
Pre-loading Screen
I’ve discussed this concept at the end of this blog post, but here are some more details. Basically, MailChimp is a robust application with a suite of tools that help you design stuff (like a graphic editor), write stuff (like a word processor), run reports (like an analytics package), segment your lists (like a database program), and more. That’s a lot of stuff you’re running in your web browser. When you get an appreciation for the code, you start to understand why some pages take 2 seconds to load.
Actually, no you don’t. Nobody cares. We all just want stuff to load fast. So in an effort to make MailChimp a little snappier, we’re going to start pre-loading a lot of our JavaScript, CSS, images, and some of the code in the WYSIWYG editor. Not everything. Just the parts that make sense.
The pre-loading screen has some humor in it (and if I’m following @aarron’s tweet correctly, perhaps an easter egg?) and it looks something like this:
But if you have our “party-pooper mode” enabled, your pre-loading screen will look more like this:
It may take some getting used to in the beginning, but we think it’ll help the overall experience after you’re logged in.
List Dashboard
When you click on the “Lists” tab, then on this “view list” link:
You’re going to see a whole new “Dashboard” for that list. In this Dashboard, you’ll get a birds-eye-view of your subscribers, list growth chart, your list’s engagement score, the list’s average open, click, and bounce rates, and more.
It’s a nice, handy way to see how “healthy” your list is. At the bottom of each List Dashboard, you’ll also see the different “groups” you’ve setup for that list…
Easier Groups Management
We’ve always had a strange “paradigm problem” when it came to lists and groups. Some of us at MailChimp read database marketing books and email marketing best practices, and we use words like “interest groups” and “segmentation.” Others in our company deal more directly with customers, who almost never say the word “segmentation,” but instead use words like “target sub-groups.” To add to the problem, some of our customers, who are switching from another ESP (who doesn’t support multiple lists), refer to “segments” or “groups” as “lists.” It can be hard explaining to everybody how we’re different, and how in MailChimp, you can actually have multiple lists, and inside those lists, multiple groups.
So we’ve redesigned this area of lists completely to reconcile all these factors. We hope that the entire lists vs. segments vs. groups issue is a little easier to explain to people, no matter what paradigm they come from.
First, setting up a group is extremely fast and easy:
Above is an example of how a restaurant might create “groups” that email subscribers can join. For example, some people can subscribe to receive updates about Pizza and Salad, but not Sandwiches. Notice we show you how many members are inside each group? You can also click that number to see who those people are, and export them for some kind of deeper analysis (perhaps run them through Flowtown to learn more about their personality). Okay, that change is easy enough to understand.
But let’s say you held a Vegetarian Pizza contest at your restaurant, and now you’ve got 200 more people who signed up at your storefront for updates about “Pizza” and all your other “Vegetarian” offerings. In other words, you’ve got 200 people to add, and make members of your Pizza and Vegetarian groups. In the past, importing them into MailChimp was a little complicated. It involved importing a CSV with properly formatted columns, and it was prone to errors.
Now, you just 1) pick your import method, then 2) check the boxes for what groups they should go in:
Hidden Groups
Here’s another scenario for that same restaurant. Let’s say at the register, they like to keep records on their “VIP” customers, and their tastebud tendencies. You know, so they can offer some extra TLC whenever they visit. You can now include that secret stuff inside of MailChimp’s hidden groups.
For example, let’s say you have a customer who absolutely loves your Thai LadNa Noodles dish, because that’s the comfort food my his mom always cooks when he goes home, and he also always orders the mango + sweet sticky rice dessert. Wouldn’t it be cool to send him a targeted email if you have a new variation on the recipe (like, maybe, Lobster LadNa? Mmmmm). Or maybe you want to “tag” certain customers on your list if you know they’re a food review columnist.
In v5.1, you can setup groups that are hidden from your signup form, like this:
and then you can send a targeted email to these hidden groups:
If these recipients ever clicked to update their subscription preferences, they’d never see those hidden settings.
New KnowledgeBase
Over the last few months, we’ve been secretly working on building a new knowledgebase (KB) for MailChimp, and migrating content over (not easy when features change as much as they do around here). The current KB, hosted by LivePerson, has served us well over the years, but we wanted some extra functionality and customization to make it a better experience for our customers. And to be blunt, the KB has a ton of email marketing content that we’d like the almighty Google to index on our own site, thank-you-very-much.
This was an extremely difficult project, and we wanted to get it juuuust right when we launched. It’s been running for a little while in sort of a “soft launch” state, as we collect data and experiment with different ideas. We actually planned to take more time before launching officially, but we just learned that our product team have already wired it into MailChimp v5.1′s interface:
So yeah, I guess we’re launching the new KB (gulp)! BTW, that’s pretty much our secret to GTD around here. Throw your hat over the fence, and make yourself go live, whether you’re ready or not (what’s that General Patton quote about good plans vs. perfect plans?).
Anyway, all KB articles have a new sidebar, which includes:
- Live Chat escalation link
- Google Translate link
- Share/Email links
- URL shortener for the articles
There’s more exciting stuff underneath the hood. We’re really tinkering with Expression Engine as a KB tool, and are excited about the possibilities. Also playing a lot with Google Custom Search, and handling requests that come in after hours.
Props to Stephen, our website guy, and Jennifer, our KB engineer. Jennifer was once on the customer service front lines, so she’s been a great person to have writing all those articles. She wants me to mention two things about the new KB:
1) First, the Google search algorithm needs more tweaking and training. There’s only so much we can do ourselves. We want to get it right, but the best way to train it is “in the wild.” For example, the shorter the search phrase, the better. Don’t ask, “How can I manage groups in MailChimp?” Instead, just type in “mailchimp groups” and you’ll get better results. Also, quotes just don’t work right now.
2) At the bottom of the side column, there’s a new feature called “keywords.” She’s manually tagging each article with relevant keywords, to reveal other stuff you might want to learn about. For example, Jennifer says that if you search for “rss-to-email” and read an article, you’ll find little keywords that you can click and “learn a crap ton” of new stuff about rss-to-email.
Just keep in mind this is a “phase one” launch, and more improvements are coming.
Additions to Template Language
We launched our own template language a while back, and two of the most common requests are:
- Ability to include a default image placeholder
- Ability to also constrain the height of an uploaded image, not just the width
Done, and done. So now you can really do some cool stuff for our template design contest!
Account Status Alerts from Compliance Team
We’ve also added a new “Account Status” feature. It’s like a message center, where you see all the warnings and account updates from Omnivore and our Compliance Team. If you send a campaign that raises any red flags with us, you’ll get a warning the next time you log in to MailChimp. You may also get messages from team members here. We’ve just found that sometimes, when our system suspends an account, people are caught way off guard by it all, even though we’d been sending them emails about the problems for quite a while. It’s mainly because in a lot of cases, the contact person on the account is not the same person sending the emails. We’re hoping this will help. We suspect the current notifications will be a bit on the aggressive side at first (you’ll see them for almost every single warning), but we’ll be tweaking the sensitivity as soon as we launch.
Faster Account Navigation
You’ll notice a few interface refinements in v5.1. Thank our new designer, Jason Beaird, for that. He’s taking baby steps in this release, but you can expect some really super-awesome refinements in upcoming releases (no pressure, Jason).
One nice touch is the ability to navigate your account settings faster with this little dropdown:
Instead of clicking the Account link, going to the Account settings page, and then drilling down into the Account Keys page, you can just jump straight into it.
Subtle, but powerful. And there’s more where that came from!
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Awesome.
Any word on when segmenting limitations will be lifted? Right now, it’s still 5 rules per list (or 10 using the API).
I’ll be checking out the new groups tooling to see if that offers any solutions to our particular problem, but awesome news all around otherwise!
The only other huge feature I’d love to see is a way to “resell” or tool Mailchimp like Campaign Monitor. CM allows you to set the pricing on sub accounts so that web masters can offer web marketing as part of their services, make a few extra dollars, while allowing clients to pay and use their services themselves directly through CM.
Since I love Mailchimp much more… it’d be awesome to move my clients to Mailchimp!
Thank you for the coming 5.1 upgrade. The thought that goes into these is an important part of what I love about you guys at MailChimp.
I have a very important question (to me) about the implementation of your Groups Management feature, that addresses what keeps me from currently using the groups as they are currently defined.
I’ll quote from your post:
Now, as the restaurant owner, I have my mailing list where customers have pre-selected certain types of email they are interested in. What happens when, two months from now, I add a new assortment of “Calzone” offerings to my menu.
I start running ads on my restaurant’s website inviting customers to sign-up for emails related to our Calzone products. This is where the old MailChimp approach to groups fails me.
New customers can of course select “Calzone” from the many list of groups they wish to subscribe to. But previously any of my customers in the existing email database were sent away from that email sign-up page with the error that they are “already subscribed to the list”.
In other words. How can my CURRENT email customers sign-up to receive notices about my new Calzone offerings?
Is this issue addressed in the 5.1 upgrade?
Hi Craig, yes, we actually talked about you in our last meeting. Your “open letter to MailChimp” helped. :-) But I have bad news, and good news. The bad news is that yes, we had a fix in place for you that we were going to include in v5.1, but some of us felt that there was a very slight security risk there. And you know how murphy’s law works. So we decided to take a different approach, and include it in v5.2. Basically, we were going to allow people to do what you want to happen from within the signup form. We’ve since decided it needs to take place in another, more secure way. Hope that makes sense.
We use groups to offer readers different types of issue-specific newsletters, and have a similar situation. This feature will be very helpful.
I really had hoped to see this feature ( http://jungle.mailchimp.com/forum/topics/interest-group-management-and ) but glad that it is still on your radar. This to me is one of the current major limitations with the groups that we and our users have to deal with quite often from frustrated users.
We have gotten by so far by using the mailchimp drupal plugin which will replace all the groups with whatever is selected, so prevents the confusing “you are already on this list” error. Would prefer to have a core mailchimp method as you had suggested in the post at: http://jungle.mailchimp.com/forum/topics/interest-group-management-and
I regretted pulling back on this feature, because I knew it was sorely needed. The method we were going to launch was okay, but had potential issues in some edge case scenarios. We just want to refine it more. v5.2 for sure this time. ETA is some time in May.
If you can offer a link to “Update Profile” from every newsletter I send, can’t you simply send an email to a user (when requested) from the sign-up page with that same link?
[Also, THANK YOU for the easier way to import Group lists!!!]
Yep, and that’s the way we’re gonna do it.
HELP!!! I have been trying to get into Mailchimp to send out my newsletter. Once the opening page launching in your new V5.1 version, it pops me right out of the program into a Yahoo search screen. I can’t get in. Have tried everything. Newsletter was supposed go out this morning. When will it be running correctly again and what can I do to get into the system in the meantime?
Kelli, have you tried clearing your browser cache and cookies? That seems to help most people out. We changed a lot of CSS and JavaScript files in this upgrade, so if any of the old ones are still lingering in your cache, that would cause weird behavior. If you clear your cache and cookies, and the problem persists, contact our support team.
Very excited about all of these changes!
The Account Keys shortcut will be especially welcome, as we regularly switch between several accounts every day.
Vegetarian pizza… yummy.
Loved new groups settings. Thanks a lot!
Was thinking of you when I wrote that. ;-)
I can’t work out how to make my current groups setting hidden… hiding them would be awesome :)
You can hide existing groups in the form builder. From the lists tab, click the “forms” link in the list you want to work with. In your form, select the checkbox group you want to hide, then click the field settings tab on the right. Check hidden and you are set.
Love the new features… when will the system stabilize tonight? Also, very minor typo “Vegetarian Pizza contst”
It’s taking a little time for groups data to re-populate within accounts, and we’ve had a couple broken links reported. Working on fixes to that now. I’d say within another hour, if you still see wonkiness, clear cache and cookies. If wonkiness persists, contact support.
Fixed that typo. Um, you actually read that far? Thanks!
Maybe this is the upgrade in progress, but all my group segmentations have disappeared.
Hi Sam, Yep, that’s the upgrade in progress. Here’s the note from our engineers: “v5.1 is now officially live. The one thing some users may notice as we finish filling in data for groups is that they won’t see their old groups until we get to their account. Those processes are already running and I would expect them to finish in the next hour or so. If something goes wrong with that, I’ll update everyone again.”
I still haven’t seen my group segmentations reappear, FYI. This is making me nervous.
Sorry Sam. As of 10am this morning, the updates completed. There are a handful of customers whose groups didn’t complete. If you don’t see them now, we’ll need to go manually kickstart your lists again. Contact our support team, so they can help you: http://blog.mailchimp.com/support/
Sam, what worked for me was I clicked to edit each group name and re-saved the names. Then they showed up.
Still not able to import lists and getting syntax errors when trying to import into groups. Also, on the lists page, links to groups and settings seem to be disabled and pointing to #
Chris,
We haven’t seen any global issues with importing lists. Check out this article to see if any of these apply: Having problems uploading or importing your list?: http://eepurl.com/g8fU
Barring that, head over to blog.mailchimp.com/support and have a chat or email one of our support ninjas and we should be able to get to the bottom of the issue.
While some of the things are cool, I cannot select any of my templates for the newsletter campaign. I can drag them but not select them.
Apparently your “upgrade” has OBLITERATED all my user choices made for their interests (“monthly newsletter”, “Mac Stuff” etc).
Your upgrade has destroyed 9 months of work.
It took a while for some accounts to get updated, so for about 9 hrs there, it looked like all interest groups were lost (for some users). Sorry for the wonky experience. All accounts *should* have been updated by now. If your groups still aren’t showing, contact our support team, and they’ll investigate.
Hi,
I try to create a campaign now, but when selecting one of my custom templates is impossible .. Can you advise me?
I just have a system of “drag and drop” available but nowhere to put the theme .. the selection seems impossible: (
Previously I think he just had to select the theme ..
Hi Ghislain, that was a bug. Sorry about that. The issue is resolved now.
Nice. I’m new to mailchimp but these improvements sound great!
we’re getting 503 errors
“The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.”
:(
Ben, I am SO excited to move to MC. I’ve been slogging through the wilderness of (some other large EMS) for far too long now. This hidden group feature is exactly what I need! Thank you for being so awesome.
Our campaign reports are difficult to read and we’re getting messages asking if we want to only view secure information on pages…is this a bug, or due to the worj in progress? :) The other upgrades look great!
I really like using and referring your product/service. However, all of my reports are jacked up like DIV tags trying to fit into a girdle. Also, the video icon seems to be spawning and replicating itself throughout the site. Scary! Somethings have taken a step back on the evolution of chimp, err man, chart.
Are you on Windows Vista + IE8, by any chance? If so, clear cache and cookies and see if that helps. We made a fix for that earlier today.
Yes, I had IE8 and Vista. Deleted browser history and all is well, thank you!
Congrats on the release! And thank you for the Flowtown mention ;-)
We’re currently refactoring the integration to take advantage of the new [interest] group features, love the changes!
This new MailChimp import process should go live tomorrow/Thursday.
Ethan Bloch (@ebloch)
Co-Founder
Flowtown
1) I look forward to trying out the new groups feature.
2) Is there a better way now to pour contacts from one MailChimp list into another, or is downloading to CSV and re-uploading still necessary?
3) Please unsubscribe me from the LadNa Pizza subgrouping ;-)
There will soon be a better way to merge lists together, but for now, the export then import process is the way to go. It’s something we know would be really, really useful and it’s a top priority on our roadmap.
Wonderful update!
I look forward to using the MailChimp app. I would like to second the suggestion Mike Watkins has about reselling or another option (for me) would be to have an administrative tool integrated into the WordPress Admin area.
As I build ‘all in one’ solutions, MailChimp is the goto tool for email solutions my clients work with.
Great Service, Great Tools, Great Attitude!
Mike
you guys rock!
Hey!
Cool features as usual! Thanks a lot.
A different approach to let people know that their accounts were red flagged by the The Big Brother (aka Omnivore), is to create a Webhook for it so the nerd behind each account could implement their own procedures in case anything explode inside their account.
Even when, Thank God, my accounts had never being red flagged so far, it would certainly give me peace of mind because I use to set accounts for my clients, install them my wordpress-frontend-for-mailchimp application and almost forget them… so to stablish a method to be aware of any problem the second it happens is certainly a blessing (I don’t wanna risk my mailchimp accounts now that the coolest features are popping all the time!).
Four thumbs up! Eep!
Webhooks for Omnivore. Sort of like an ISP’s feedback loop. Hmmm, I like it! Will pass the idea on. Thanks, as always!
It’s all good stuff.
One big issue remaining is the fact that segmentation is limited to either “ANY”, or “ALL”. So you can’t do something like “If (a AND B) OR (B and C)”.
Thanks, Nathan. I’m not a database expert or architect in any way, so I’m not sure what the impact of your specific segmentation needs are, but I know that in general, the dev team doesn’t want to offer too many options in our app’s segmentation area that could impact server performance for +320k users. We do discuss adding more segmenation options in the app, but for more advanced queries (and high volume senders), we’re planning to offer an application that you can download to your desktop, run your queries there, then pass data back to MailChimp before sending. Just wanted to let you know that *something* to accommodate “more segment options” is in the works.
I a previous post here Nathan Hazout says:
It’s all good stuff.
One big issue remaining is the fact that segmentation is limited to either “ANY”, or “ALL”. So you can’t do something like “If (a AND B) OR (B and C)”.
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Thanks, Nathan. I’m not a database expert or architect in any way, so I’m not sure what the impact of your specific segmentation needs are, but I know that in general, the dev team doesn’t want to offer too many options in our app’s segmentation area that could impact server performance for +320k users. We do discuss adding more segmenation options in the app, but for more advanced queries (and high volume senders), we’re planning to offer an application that you can download to your desktop, run your queries there, then pass data back to MailChimp before sending. Just wanted to let you know that *something* to accommodate “more segment options” is in the works.
I had the same problem. I have a list where I keep track of customer’s normal name and address then the firstname and D.O.B. of up to 5 children in the household.
I tried to create a campaign to send an email to the parent 2 months prior to the child’s birthday for any child on the list as a reminder to start planning the child’s birthday. Obviously if I created this campaign on the 10th of the month, any child who’s birthday was on the 11th of the month two months from now would get the email as of 11th (the next day) and the emails would be generated everyday thereafter. The problem was that I had no way to program into the campaign all the children who’s birthdays would be from the 1st of the month through the 10th of the month because you can only select any or all. If I had “and” or “or” available I would have easily been able to do this. Instead, I had to create a separate campaign for each child 1-5 and each day up to the 10th of the month. Talk about wasting my time and your resources. If you would have allowed a couple more operators (if, then, or, else etc.)like Nathan mentioned (like in my basic programming days back in the 70s) I could have achieved this with a couple of extra lines in the list and your computers could have cranked it out in an extra couple of milliseconds. Also, I have 5 separate campaigns running when I really only need 1. I hope this helps in your quest for a solution. There is another issue that I have with these campaigns and I will start a new post to ask about that but if anyone reading this has experienced the same thoughts look for my post and mailchimp’s answer. When I created these autoresponders I assumed that I would get an email report from Mailchimp for each campaign separately. Instead I get a cumulative report where the new email recipients get tacked on to the previously sent campaign. When I look at the reports to see who opened etc. I see everyone who has ever been sent an email in that campaign which is very laborious to go thru. I just want to see the recipients from the latest campaign sent not everyone.
Can I move excisting members into groups?
I want to make a segment and appoint a group to them, but I can’t seem to find how.
Can you see performance by group in the reports?
We have a feature in the works that will make it a lot easier to move existing subscribers into groups. For now, to move subscribers into groups you can export your list, open in Excel and set the groups (here’s how How should my groups for segmenting be set up in my list for import?: http://eepurl.com/gOH9), then re-import checking the “auto-update my existing list” option.
We’re working on making this process easier, but for now, the above steps will do the trick.
Viewing performance by group in a report is a brilliant idea! It’s not in there now, but we will put that in the idea bucket. Thanks for the feedback.
Maybe this is the upgrade in progress, but all my group segmentations have disappeared.
Brac Apartments
That’s something that happened during the upgrade process — groups disappeared temporarily, as we reformatted databases and re-populated the data. The upgrade process has been complete since yesterday morning, though. If you’re still not seeing your groups (keep in mind, the page is re-designed, and groups appear further down on the screen, in a new interface), you should contact someone on our support team to help you get it sorted out: http://blog.mailchimp.com/support
Thanks so much for the hidden groups feature. Now we can segment our list without having our customers do it when they sign up, or see that group as an option on the signup form.
Great product.
Can I ad a !me too! for reselling mail chimp. We use our own steam-driven hand-written email prog for our clients and I’d love to dump it and move all my clients over to MailChimp.
Great work guys.
Kevin
Love MailChimp. Love love LOVE!
One thing I do a lot of is auto including people into email lists when the register for certain websites of mine. Not when its inappropriate of course ;)
I currently use the suggested plugin for this by corePHP for joomla. They require Acct + List ID. Problem is, I rather use Groups than Lists since Lists could double or triple my customer count. Is there any ‘appending’ I can do to the list ID to specify a group in this case?
Thanks for any help! LOVE MAILCHIMP =)
-Chel
Nice one guys ‘n girls! Good to see an already killer product get even better.
I love those little movies you make to explain stuff, please make one for the new features. :)
Well, I’m taking back my “THANK YOU” from above comment… or, maybe it’s me, I’m doing something wrong.
In your above example:
“You’ve got 200 people to add, and make members of your Pizza and Vegetarian groups”.
So, when I import those email addresses and I check the boxes “Pizza” and “Vegetarian” groups, they do get imported as advertised. However, if any of those subscribers were in my list and had been subscribed to “Salads” or any other groups, that data is cleared.
Or, like I said, maybe I’m doing something wrong? Did I miss a checkbox saing, “Retain subscriptions to all other groups when importing”?
Karl – you aren’t doing anything wrong, this is bug that we are aware of and we are in the process of fixing it. Sorry for the problems it may have caused you. We’ll post an update here when we release the patch.
Just a heads up, Karl. That bug is squashed. You should now have no issues importing to groups.
Aarron – Tested today, still having same problem. I have a ticket in to support: Ticket# LTK152037462775X — But have not heard back. -K
Hi, is it possible to have a hidden pre selected interest when creating a hosting form?
I’m using an a/b split test on adwords with 2 different forms, they have the same interest but signing up on 2 different pages, i want to be able to send both these groups auto responders but i dont want them to be able to select an interest, i just want to know which page they registered on so that i can monitor the success of that particuler page based on the marketing campaign (tv/newspaper/online).
Am i making any sense?!
Hey Abdul,
I was having exactly the same problem, it seems to be more confusing than it has to be.
My solution was simply to add checked=”checked” in your on whatever checkbox you want to be pre-selected then just add a class .hide { display:none } to the groups surrounding to make that sucker disappear.
Think this validates, and is a whole lot easier.
Hope this helps!
I need to get a slower computer/internet connection; the new preloader is too fast! I don’t get to see any of the funny stuff! :(
@Danny hehehe… Every solution creates more, bigger, problems… :)
You. Guys. EFFING. ROCK.
I can feel so so so much love, effort, and energy in this upgrade. I love it. Easy imports, groups, faster navigation… fantastic.
I’m pretty new to MailChimp, but you offer amazing value to the world, thanks so much you guys.
I’m new to MailChimp, and love the UI. Looking forward to the “already subscribed to the list” error fix in 5.2!
That is a major issue for me – and others I have spoken to.
Thanks.
Hidden interest groups is what we needed but never thought of. Thank you MailChimp.
I’ve read a few things about MailChimp and its integration with RSS feed subscriber counts. If a new reader subscribes to my newsletter via MailChimp, will he/she count towards my subscribers as listed in Feedburner? I love the functionality of MailChimp but I’m afraid my numbers will go down if I use the MailChimp newsletter sign-up exclusively. I guess this is sort of tied into the new features, so thought I would ask. Thanks!
Just found you guys and looking forward to starting my own email campaigns with you!
Thank you for the updates. You are just making the service better and better.
That green screen scared the CRAP out of me! But then, after reading this, it’s really funny! I like you guys sense of humor, and your product. I hope your upgrade goes well… I have no issues so far.
Hey Ben,
that thing with “secret lists” is nice. Until now I’ve been creating subscription forms manually because I could just remove parts of code with segments that I don’t want to be shown. but it was stupid workaround as I had to recreate form every time I’d add new group.
Now, with this new feature it’s easier BUT!! There is always that damn “but” .. :) How can I change old groups to “hidden” without destroying them and re-creating them as hidden type. I’d rather not do that.. as is understandable probably :)
Anyway, very nice update for us “segmentation” people, checking segments on import is just as nice.. Btw, while already writing – if I import person@company.com and check “Group 1″, and it already exists in database and is segmented as “Group 2″, will it:
a) ignore import
b) add “Group 1″ so it’s member of both groups
c) replace “Group 2″ with “Group 1″
??
If I don’t know what happens, I’ll have to keep doing CSVs for all imports.. :/
Thank goodness! I had emailed about the hidden groups thing a few weeks ago. Glad to see it in the new release.
Hi, love the new features, thanks for explaining them in Plain English!
Apparently this upgrade is a downgrade in reliability. Just crashed as I was about to finish a newsletter. I hope I have not lost all my work. So much for the deadline. Will no longer recommend it to clients without reservations.
Thanks, the new hidden groups solves a big problem for us. Now, we’ve got one more. Your Address import is improved, but still isn’t perfect. Please add support to import (from CSV) individual address fields (Address 1, Address 2, City, State, Zip, Country). These are standard fields in so many contact databases. THANKS!
Maybe it’s just me, but when the pre-loader screen started doing it’s banana thing I thought I was on an ‘adult’ website…
Is that a banana or is Freddie happy to see us? I bet he is!
Like a modern leader used to say: Oops, you did it, again. The features are great. List groups are very handy for customers, and to be able to add default images on custom code templates is awesome.
Eep Eep!
What about adding a feature where you can do a dual language email, recipient selects their preferred language and the email magically changes to that language??
You can try this – http://blog.mailchimp.com/automagic-email-translation-in-mailchimp/
Love the new feature of Hidden groups. I haven’t gotten to the list management features yet.
One suggestion. Now that I can have hidden groups, I’d like to import 2 of my existing lists into one of my other lists, using the hidden group to segment them. I’d like to do that without exporting to a CSV file and importing again manually or some other such manual way. Surely that’s coming soon?
Thanks for the upgrade. Too bad support gave no indication this was coming. Since I asked about this seems like only 2 weeks ago.
Hi Darin, we innovate very fast around here. Often, we’re done creating new features before our support team even knows about them. It’s impressive to watch them learn how new features work, anticipate questions from customers, and come up with implementation scenarios *just* before launch. That’s why they might not have mentioned this new feature to you. Also, we sometimes tell support what’s coming in the next release, but *just* before we launch, we pull back on a few features b/c we’re not comfy enough launching them yet. That’s what happened in 5.1, actually. So things are pretty fluid during our releases. It’s the price of rapid innovation. As far as your question is concerned (not importing a new CSV file), I’ll ask someone from support to answer. I’m just the pretty face around here.
Hi Darin, at the moment, downloading the list and re-uploading your.csv file to the application is the best route to take. I believe the groups options you’re talking about are something that the designers are looking into but we’re not too sure when we’ll see it.
Here’s some more information on downloading your list:
Can I extract, export or download my list from MailChimp?: http://eepurl.com/hcwD
Then, importing into your group shouldn’t be too hard. There’s an article for that here: How can I add my subscribers to a Group?: http://eepurl.com/vS7t
All that is good, but what I really need is a better WYSIWYG on the HTML editing window. I know the font size selections follow general markup language, but “small” and “smaller” are so relative, and my test emails to myself always look way different than the HTML email editor. Plus, deleting, copying and/or pasting something with one font setting doesn’t necessarily mean the formatting is retained. Let me know when THOSE fixes are made. Thanks.
BUG: The “Toggle Strongbad” command doesn’t seem to actually toggle Strongbad on the preload screen.
Seems okay in all browsers from our perspective. Not that we are admitting Strong Bad is in the loading screen, but if he were, he seems to be comfortably making guest appearances.
Love new new Groups feature!!! Been waiting for better groups control for a long time. MailChimp may now be perfect!
Thanks for all the hard work!
Jake
Maybe I did something wrong or am missing a reporting feature that I haven’t tried but I have an issue with autoresponder campaigns and wonder if anyone else has the same concern. When my autoresponders send emails based on a date I receive the report from Mailchimp and it has been adding cumulatively to the list each time. Now when I recieve the reports they are getting larger and larger and I have to manually sift through to see who received the last “mailing” to see information about them. I never envisioned it working like this. I thought I would receive results from only the people who were sent to, not the entire list of people sent to from the day of inception. What is the difference between my manually sending a campaign to a segmented list and the automated “autoresponder” version? There should not be any difference. When I manually create a campaign even though I copy it from a previously sent campaign I get a report on only those who received it. That’s the way the autoresponder should report. Ie. If 12 people received it, I should only see 12 people in the campaign, Thanks, Steve
I’d just like to say that you guys rock and I’m constantly impressed with the level of service you provide. Love the tone of voice in your communications, often make me laugh out loud. Keep up the good work.
Rich
The real estate business can be really stressful and sometimes, way too serious. Try getting a lender to crack a smile and you know what I mean. I’m still learning the ins and outs of Mail Chimp, but wow am I having a good time doing it. You guys just make me laugh. And in the world I live in, a little levity is a good thing. No…it’s a great thing.
With all these new features I’m shocked that mailchimp isn’t dealing with one of the biggest problems of all…the messed up html formatting in outlook. When I’ve asked about this before customer service just says “oh it’s an outlook thing and nothing we can do.” Well I get plenty of html emails from other companies that look just fine, so there’s got to be a way to get html formatting to look right. Business customers use Outlook, not webmail, so until mailchimp fixes this it’ll still be a consumer-based EML.
Once you have set up a Group and designated it as, say, Checkboxes, how can you change it to being Hidden? I can’t see where that is possible? The scenario: I created a Group that *should* have been Hidden (i.e not displayed i Sign Up forms), but I forgot to specify that at the time of creating the Group. Now I can’t see where it’s possible to edit this? Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers, MC P.S. Lovin’ the t-shirt!
Hello! That’s one of the reasons I have always though that “hidden” must a property of any group.. and not a “group type” per se :(
However, Michael, I think you can set it as hidden in the web form design application… Not sure thought.